Utopia

'Can a Utopia ever exist? If it can, is it the product of our external environment, a state of 'being' within, or both of these?
'I suggest both.'
'Because?...'
'People can find aspects of a Utopia - even in the most trying situations, but to be truly Utopian, everybody would have to feel the same, and so the environment would probably have to support the possibility of Utopia for everyone.'
'You show great insight. But I confess my own Utopia is now deeply disturbed by your contribution, for I am no longer the facilitator I was when we first began discussion.'